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The Legion 7i display boasts breathtaking visuals from corner offices to battle stations for cinema-like immersive gaming experiences. The Legion 7i features the Legion TrueStrike keyboard. Forged from years of Lenovo innovation, TrueStrike features soft-landing switches with 1.

A seamless fusion between mighty and mobile, the Legion 7i features all-day battery life via a powerful 80Whr battery and a smart dynamic discharge power management system, all charged via a sleek and slim power adapter. Toggle between Quiet Mode with Q Control 3. The refined machine-milled surface, metal-build quality and subdued RGB elements offer only a hint of the unbridled power concealed within a clean, minimal chassis.

The thin and light profile is complemented by thin bezels on all four sides of the display that sports a top-placed webcam with privacy shutter, yielding more screen back to your game. Use Q-control 3. Downshift to Quiet Mode to save battery life or choose Balance Mode for normal use. Control it all in one place! Legion gaming accessories are crafted to help you win, delivering legendary performance, reliability, and aesthetics.

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I used your TS guide with my X1e Gen 2 and it helped a ton. Without iCue and under the default system lighting there is only one "normal" lit option which is blue, but it has the blue bar underneath lit as well. There is a secret to turning it off but it involves switching to battery power first. If you hit Fn-Q to go into quiet mode it turns the lights off completely. Hitting fN-Q again restores the keyboard lighting still blue but leaves the light bar off. You can replace the power connection and the settings will stick even after putting the laptop through a sleep cycle.

I decided not to use Throttlestop. I didn't find it necessary yet. I'll probably fool with it in a few weeks when I have time to tweak it properly. The only thing I plan on using it for is to tune an ultra low TDP for use on battery power when I need to maximize it.

You can safely install iCUE, run it to create and activate your prefered RGB setup with static colors for keyboard or any other area then make sure the customized profile you want is the first in the iCUE profile list as that'll be the one that gets activated upon iCUE startup. From there you can create a batch file like below, create a shortcut for it, customize that shortcut with a shortcut key combo from its Properties such as setting it to CTRL-ALT-K, etc then place that shortcut in your Start Menu's Programs folder.

From then on, all you have to do is hit the keyboard combo anywhere in Windows and it'll auto-kill the iCUE process and its services while leaving the loaded RGB profile in tact until reboot. Point is: you can still have iCUE installed to take advantage of all the RGB goodness on your laptop static colouring, that is, animated coloring freezes when iCUE is stopped but still use a simple keyboard kepress to stop it from eating all of your battery runtime. When you want it back, just run it again… rinse, repeat.

May not be elegant, but its the best we can do until Corsair gets off their buts after all these years and fixes this hog or, even better, Lenovo integrates RGB lighting controls directly in Vantage. Is it really all metal? Did you try to disassemble internal parts to see the laptop's frame structure?

I have legion 7i with i9 HK model. And i cannot undervolt it using xtu or throttlestop as the option is disable. I read in internet that i need to open advanced bios and tick something. I've checked discord and nobody has figured out how to unlock advanced bios yet. I must be lucky that mine is unlocked. I still haven't updated the bios and now I probably won't. The L7 deal is really good right now making it the same price, if not cheaper than an equivalent speced L5P.

I'm very happy with the L5P that I have though and there really isn't anything I need the L7 for other than the better speakers. Still sounds like they aren't amazing speakers, just better than the L5P's. My my main concern about switching is that I really like the L5P keyboard with the 1. Sounds like I'd lose both on the L7 for shallower travel, flat keys.

Do you like the keyboard now or still miss the L5 keyboard? I've adjusted pretty well to this keyboard. I do miss the concave keys for sure but the former feedback makes up for it. Not that it really matters, but the RGB is a little better on the L7. The only thing I kind of miss about the L5P keys is the black color. I'm not a fan of having no contrast. Figure it is easy to get used to anything. I have used a Razer before and after while my fingers get more tired with the flat keyboard than the with the legion 5 I have also used.

None of the aesthetic make a huge difference to me. Still with today's deals the L7 actually comes in at a cheaper price than I paid for a L5P with the same options. Still in the return window and it is still a hard decision. I just measured it now and it's 1. The main difference is in the feedback. For both keyboards, it takes 55g to depress the key. But on the L7, the springs are a little different ant lift a little more naturally. The Razer Blade keys spring back when the force is dropped to 30g, while the L7 keys lift back at 15g.

Hard to explain, but the key doesn't fight back as much on the L7, making it feel like it's easier to depress the key and to tell if it's depressed. I don't take these measurements anymore I used to do this for every laptop but it's a tedious test and offers little reward. I would describe the L5P keyboard to be a little "mushier" though mainly because the lift back force is probably somewhere smaller than 15g. It wasn't bad — I've certainly had worse. But the keystroke depth makes up for it for sure.

Tough call because I was ok with both Lenovo keyboards. Couldn't reply to the comment to the comment. Great info. Wouldn't even know how to begin measuring key travel. One other question. Have you tried the L7 slim? Best buy has it on display. I'm thinking the L7 and L7 slim have the same keyboard. Closest I'll come to testing our an L7. I liked it. I haven't tried it but I might be in the area this weekend.

If I am, I'll give it a try and will let you know. Cool, let me know what you think. I tried it out and a Legion 5 at my local BB. They didn't have a L5P, but I think the L5 is similar. Different feeling keyboards. I can't really say which was better. I want this laptop but this is out of my budget, could you suggest me from where i can buy this laptop in use?

Keep an eye on deal sites like Slickdeals. If you put an alert in, it'll email you if a deal pops up. I'm sure the version has also had sales. Good luck. I just got a Legion 5 Pro because I got a really good deal and I really like it so far! I was also looking at the Legion 7, but that was not available for a long time and I felt the difference was not so big between the two.

I was a bit sensitive with PWM in the past, in another laptop review I read that the panel does not have any PWM — did you by any chance check that? I don't really have proper measurment tools or knowledge to see if the display uses PWM. Would appreciate your reply and thanks again for the review!

I don't have the equipment to check for it unfortunately. Notebookcheck says they didn't detect any though, so I would trust in that. I don't understand why you won't show the blender benchmarks for legion series unlike the reviews of Asus laptops where you show them.

As much as we're trying to keep our testing consistent between us, I run a couple more benchmarks than Derek does in his reviews. Hence, no Blender or Specviewperf here. The GPU in this thing is extremely impressive with only the and ti consistently beating it. Let me know if you want me to run a particular benchmark for you. A few questions. A little bit of everything done well. Advice much appreciated! Will i9 HK be overkill for this laptop?

Does i7CPU provide a better balance of performance and lower batter power consumption? Yes, the CPU is overkill. The i7 is probably fine, although I don't know if the power profiles are the same. I really liked the quiet profile on this model since it still was playable for all games. Power consumption is probably negligible though. The 32gb kit is fine with me on this model. If you go the 16gb route, you'll have to upgrade but the 32gb models are fine as is. Absolutely not. But also consider that the top tiered model has an extre ssd, more ram and a "better" CPU.

So that plays into the cost difference too. Given that choice, I would say the model is the way to go. The AMD model has a couple cons to it though which I'm still working on an article for. Given the choice, I'd pick AMD though, especially if you can find it significantly cheaper. Thanks Derek.

I will also be keen to understand your perspective on the difference between the AMD configuration and the Intel. Did you say you will be publishing a review of the Legion 7 16" AMD soon? No chance that is bottlenecked by any of the CPU options on these models. The CPU power is pretty overkill for most games. I should have an article up within a week or so.

I've got all the data, I just need to write it. Been super busy this week. Thank you very much for the review. It arrived with empty battery. After charging, the laptop turned on. Do you notice such bahaviour or might it be faulty? That's not normal at all. Battery being dead on arrival like that is a red flag something is wrong hardware wise. It could be firmware too but I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem.

You could check their Discord server to see if anyone else has that issue, but if it were me I'd just RMA it. Excellent review! Can you offer some advice on finding a suitable car charger or otherwise more portable solution using the USB C port? And will it extend battery life while in use, whether regular or intensive, or is it mainly for charging while not in use?

In light of this, what's your opinion of these specs? I actually have one coming in on Monday. If it works, I'll report back. Perhaps older PD protocols aren't supported? Good specs on that model. I think the is probably fine for almost anyone who doesn't do heavy gaming. A will be futureproof for the 5 years you are intending to use the machine though.

Same with the CPU. Good luck with your new purchase! Looking forward to hearing more about the USB C charger you have on order, assuming it works. What really sold me on this laptop in addition to the great specs and appearance, etc. Been trying out a 5i Pro with the same screen, and it's as good as everyone says.

I really don't need 3 USB-C, especially since the right one doesn't support Thunderbolt or charging…. Never used an external fingerprint reader, sorry. I've adapted to just using the pin on this model. You can set up the laptop to boot when you open the lid, and by the time you get it open, you can type your pin in right away. Takes 2 seconds and no need to touch the power button. Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of getting a Jackery or , and keeping it in the car for use in a pinch. Heck, get the solar panels that go with it, and you could game or edit video just about anywhere!

You'll want a cable that has an E-marker chip in it to successfully support up to the W 20V at 5A that these Legions support. I use the following cables successfully with my PD charger on my Legion 7 AMD as they do up to W while also supporting Gen 2 transfer speeds 10Gbps and video [email protected] at minimum :. Derek, a quick note regarding USB-C charging. I purchased the Hyphen-X charger and a Fasgear cable with E-marker chip as suggested by Elrondolio below, and happy to report that it charges my 7i with great, however only while in sleep mode or turned off.

But I also tried this on a much less expensive 7i with graphics, and it was able to charge the battery while using the laptop. The convenience of being able to charge via USB-C while in use seems like an important selling point for the version, assuming one can get by with more of an entry-level GPU by today's standards. Apologies, the laptop with graphics that was able to charge via USB-C while in use was the Legion 5i Pro and not a 7i I don't believe Lenovo even makes a 7i with graphics, but I could be wrong.

It is expected to ship on 11 October. I plan to use this with my Quest 2 link cable. I have two questions; 1 Does this configuration come with a "MUX" switch ability to turn off hybrid mode? Much appreciated! I never had that model but I'm going to go with "probably". I'm guessing they leave it alone with all the Legion 7 models. Thanks Derek, I appreciate it. I'll make sure I post back here with results once this unit arrives.

Quick and promising update Finally found the spec sheet on the version from Lenovo and it clearly states that the version supports Advanced Optimus, which I "believe" is that switch I'm looking for. Sorry, I'm new to this first gaming laptop. All piece of information is just out of the box. I have trusted and am fully ready to purchase it. But I need some more information related to it.

Is it good for financial modeling? I'm not familiar with what software you use for that but I don't see why not. Hi Derek Sullivan, I read your writing well. Thank you so much. Is it must need to undervolting? I don't think it's a must. The cooling system works fine without it. If all you're doing is gaming, there's probably little need to do it if you don't want to.

But I'm a little anxious about the battery life, I'll be using this laptop for uni when on battery, and I'll be doing a lot of ML work as well, is the battery life manageable for that? I'd like to avoid lugging the W charger if I need to carry a charger. Because the current deal that I'm getting is only on the 7i the AMD is out of stock is it worth it?

I dont think I'd mind the extra steps to get that battery life as well. Also, if I use a GaN charger with these laptops, will they only charge the laptop if its on sleep or idle?? Can't really comment on the battery life with those programs because I don't use them. But assuming it's not good enough, you can at least use a GaN charger while on the go. I never take my w brick anywhere but the GaN charger is always in my bag if needed.

It's worked out fine for me so far. But it's no different from operating on battery anyways so it doesn't really change much. Yeah the power on battery is more than enough for programming most of the time, but does the GaN charger actually charge the laptop when you are just browsing, or doing any word document work?

Yes, I can also confirm now that the GaN charger DOES charge the laptop while in use, just obviously slower than the watt power brick. In a previous post here, I said that it would only charge the Legion 5i Pro while in use, but I was mistaken. Still not clear exactly why that's the case or what it might mean, but the essential takeaway here is that the watt GaN charger charges all of these while in normal use meaning not while gaming or other intensive work. Would assume that it would also slow down the rate of discharge during heavier use, but can't say that definitively.

Considering where this 7i benchmarks for gaming at p native resolution, I wonder how using an external p monitor would affect frame rates and thermals in comparison. I'll pitch in. But, if you close the lid and put the laptop in a vertical stand, I'd expect the temperatures to improve. Fantastic review and I am on the verge of ordering one of these! I plan on using it for gaming, but also for video editing and some CAD work, so the extra RAM would make a big difference.

Just make sure to read some reviews and Reddit posts for the exact memory that others have installed, to avoid any compatibility surprises. Thank you! I found the Reddit posts after I posted my question should have googled first!!

Now for 3 impatient weeks!!! How to stretch gaming picture vertically to get rid of black bars up and down? Some games don't suport proportions. I'm ok with vertically stretched deformed objects. You could just set the in game resolution to a Most of the time it stretches it automatically. Any suggestions as to what dock or converter cables would be needed? I would be aiming for the intel I7 model with RTX The laptop is fine to use with the lid closed. You might have to lid the lid to wake it though — I never messed with the wake from USB option and the power button is on the inside.

It only requires a slight lift though and you can close if right back when it boots. As for three monitors, I have never tested this. I know there are enough outputs and theoretically they should work fine. But you'd have to rely on using both the left and rear USB-C as thunderbolt connections. These all should support QHD fine but their ability to go above 60hz is unknown to me. Thunderbolt 4 "should" be compatible though. Thank you very much for this review. Will this laptop burn down if I play hours on it daily for years or is it designed to handle that?

Your email address will not be published. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. You can also subscribe without commenting. For the generation, Asus have entirely revamped the Best Holiday Deals on ultrabooks and portable laptops. Intel Core iH benchmarks vs. Best Chromebooks of — comparisons, reviews, buying guide. Real notebook reviews and analysis by real people. Reviews Guides. The Legion 5 Pro already checked all my boxes, but this is a significant improvement from even that, which makes it worth the little extra for matching configurations.

The performance is among the best you can get on any laptop right now, and I like the keyboard on this series, the all-metal build and the fact the screen goes all the way back. All except for the battery life, that is, especially on this Intel-based model. Our score: 4. THE BAD no card-reader or biometrics stuttering in some games on Advanced Optimus mediocre battery life iCue software makes battery life abysmal gets expensive, and is unavailable for purchase in many regions.

Disclaimer: Our content is reader-supported. If you buy through some of the links on our site, we may earn a commission. Learn more. Share this article: Twitter Facebook Reddit. In addition to being a tech enthusiast, Derek has a career as a biomedical engineer. He enjoys taking things apart, figuring out how they work and finding ways to make them better. His other hobbies include spending time with his family, "Do it yourself" projects such as home automation and running.

You may also like Necter August 10, at pm. Derek Sullivan August 10, at pm. Miracle Man August 10, at pm. Miracle Man August 12, at am. Evan November 2, at am. It worked as outlined above for the first few days of ownership but has since changed.

Derek Sullivan November 2, at am. Evan November 3, at am. Narayanan Venugopal November 19, at pm. How do you switch the refresh rate to 60 Hz? Derek Sullivan August 15, at pm. Swapnil Shakya December 27, at am. Can somebody help me with this? I'm planning to by a legion but I'm not sure about advanced optimus. Does 7i has both mux or advance optimus? Can a laptop has both? And which one should I buy legion 7 or legion 7i?

Andrei Girbea December 27, at pm. Khaki August 10, at pm. Serge August 10, at pm. Matt August 13, at am. Your reviews are always my go to. Derek Sullivan August 13, at am. You can, but it requires using the battery hog iCue software in order to customize it.

Elrondolio September 6, at am. Best to you all. Derek Sullivan September 6, at pm. Nice, that worked great! Thanks for pointing that out. John Dolly August 14, at pm. Is it possible to disconnect the rgb bar if one never wants to use it. Derek Sullivan August 14, at pm. Matt August 15, at pm. Derek Sullivan August 27, at pm. Feels like it to me. To which part are you concerned isn't metal? Alvin August 28, at am. Can u help me list your steps to do undervolt?

Derek Sullivan August 28, at am. It works for me with both. By disabled do you mean the offset voltage is greyed out? Yap, it's grey out. Derek Sullivan August 29, at am. Christian Laguna August 31, at am. Hi there Try the below link, let us know if it worked for you. Derek Sullivan August 31, at am. That's last year's model. It doesn't work with this bios. Andrew W September 2, at pm. Mine works fine i7 model. Open Lenovo Vantage and make sure you are in Performance mode.

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The three available modes are Performance, Balanced and Quiet. You can also switch between these modes with Fn-Q. It actually delivers and stabilizes on those exact PL1 settings above on each of the profiles. Plus, this being an Intel processor, you can also undervolt the CPU. I did a Cinebench test and got more stable results over the course of the 15 runs, and higher frequencies at the sustained 90W power limit.

Temps landed around the same as without the undervolt. You could also do this for power conservation as well, but the effects are minimal. Excellent performance once undervolted, but very similar to the regular iH at same power.

And the Legion also runs louder than the competition in this test. I did a number of synthetic benchmarks on this laptop. For my first run, I set Lenovo Vantage to Performance mode:. That would make more sense to me on a Balanced profile. As it is, this Balanced mode is very close to the Quiet mode in terms of GPU performance and even fan noise. This mode is impressive as well, with fan noise of up to 40 dB.

I see no reason not to have this OC in place. On top of that, the results are noticeable. For the remainder of my testing, this OC was left on. Regardless, the default RAM is just fine to me. I did three sets of benchmarks this time: Performance mode, Quiet mode, and with the swapped-out RAM kit.

As stated before, not a lot of difference from swapping out the RAM. The rest of these gaming benchmarks are remarkable though. The Quiet mode benchmarks were also VERY respectable, where the GPU is set at W, close or even better than what many modern laptops offer on their top-performance profiles. Almost every game performed higher than 60fps and there was very low fan noise. I would probably set myself in this mode very frequently. This Lenovo Legion 7 uses a vapor chamber cooling system to keep the internals cool.

I was a little skeptical at first, especially after seeing the reviews from last year. Keep in mind though, the iCue software for RGB is stupidly inefficient, so I just opted to keep it off completely for the remainder of my testing. It actually made the temperatures better…. There are two large fans that are always on, but operate at very low speeds when the laptop is idle. Normal temps while idling are in the high 30s and low 40s C.

Fan noise is limited to roughly 28dB. With light tasks, the CPU only gets into the mids and the fans stay the same. Heavier tasks, though, will trigger the fans. And it makes a big difference what power mode you are on. So even short bursts of power can spike temps enough to cycle the fans. In Balanced mode and doing normal tasks and some heavy internet use, I saw CPU temps rise into the 50s and 60s, depending on the action.

In Quiet mode and on battery, the fans were effectively at idle speeds the entire time. Gaming is where the thermals really kick in though. I also measured the fan noise at my head level. I used the same scene with Horizon Zero Dawn for all three modes, but did an extended session for the performance mode, so I could record the chassis temperatures as well.

To make things easier, I put my results into a table this time. But I also took screenshots of HWinfo in all three modes. Take a look:. Seeing the difference in fan noise in each mode was really eye-opening to me. But for many games, the appeal to play on the Balanced or even Quiet mode is real. Onto the external temps. I measured the surface temps while watching a show on Netflix and multitasking while on battery, and another shot while playing Witcher 3 for an extended session.

Here is what I captured:. For normal use, the underside stays pretty cool. Note that this test was in battery mode where the CPU is limited to 45W. If you plug in, it will heat up further depending on what power mode you are in.

For gaming, the palmrest stays at low enough temperatures to prevent your palms from sweating. The WASD and arrows keys are also reasonable. Use a lapdesk. I took a speed test at roughly 25ft from my router and got Mbps — about average for me. There are two downward-facing speakers on this model. The only gripe I have with them is the cutouts are in a spot that might get covered while using this on your lap.

On other Legion models, the cutouts were on the chamfer of the bottom corner, making that more difficult. The sound is pretty good though, for a gaming laptop. After some tweaking with the Equalizer in Nahimic, I was able to achieve good sound, with good highs and adequate mids. The bass was also decent and I could detect frequencies as low as Hz.

When looking at the internals, I noticed that the speakers are pretty large, which explains why the bass was decent. I was able to pick a decent curve though that appealed to me. With the volume turned all the way up, I was able to reach an amplitude of 75dB. But the quality of the sound was much better than what I hear from say, the Razer Blade, so that counts for something. You have to be careful with the bass. Turned all the way up, I felt some vibration throughout the palmrest.

I thought it was ok for the most part but I can see how that would be annoying. The webcam is basically a standard p shooter. But even the low light correction is decent. I was wondering if it was possible on this model because it includes Tobii head tracking. The head tracking is nowhere near as accurate as the eye-tracking software that uses an IR blaster. One of the nicest features of the camera is the switch on the right side of the laptop.

My unit has an 80Whr battery installed. This is normally fine for any laptop, but I struggled to get some decent battery life with this one. First is the iCue software. If you use it to customize your keyboard settings, it launches some nasty services that kill your battery life.

The only way to stop this is to manually stop the services or uninstall iCue. The second thing drawing a lot of battery life is the CPU. But even in low power use, the CPU is still allowed to draw W if needed. So even doing simple tasks, the CPU is going to use what it needs. Here were my results:. As you can clearly see, iCue is a huge battery hog. And heavy use is going to kill your battery in just a couple of hours, even if you disable iCue.

Keep a charger on you if you plan to be out and about. The power brick is W and is the exact same as what I saw with the Legion 5 Pro. But you also get USB-C charging on this unit. So if you have a portable GaN charger, you can just attach it to the port on the back of the laptop. The trouble is you might be waiting a while for custom builds.

I had a Legion 7 with an RTX on order for nearly two months and the order date got pushed back to November until I canceled it. Once the Legion 7i I have on hand was in stock, I jumped right on it. Perhaps because of the pandemic?

The prices seem equal to the Legion 7i. The Legion 5 Pro already checked all my boxes , but this is a significant improvement from even that, which makes it worth the little extra. Key is, I like the all-metal build and the fact the screen goes all the way back. Lucky me.

All except for the battery life that is. It might be a deal-breaker for some that are looking for a machine with higher battery life. Check it out! Update: If interested in a more portable alternative with mid-tier specs and a good price, y ou should also check out our review of the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 series. In the meantime, feel free to post any questions you may have in the comments section.

Perhaps I missed it but I don't see any mention of the mux switch. The one in the Legion Vantage. Turn off Hybrid mode and reboot. Did you test that? Derek Sullivan. Yes, hybrid mode in Vantage on this model is merely just turning on advanced Optimus. If you turn off hybrid mode, it forces the dGPU to always be on. Even in hybrid mode, you can still select between GPUs in the Nvidia menu. I just bought one myself and am super happy with it! There really isn't much more you can ask for performance and feature wise with some minor exceptions, but those weren't a deal-breaker for me either.

I was able to get around hrs with that. It's a bit of a requirement but helps that have it when you're in a pinch lol. Did you see any extra benefit to setting it to integrated graphics? It should do that automatically. I've tried 60hz and that helps a lot.

I just hate suggesting it because it's a pain in the butt to switch. Curious if Fn-R works for you because that's supposed to change the refresh rate. It might just be a software bug or the need of a BIOS update. I am now required to go through the Nvidia Control Panel to change the refresh rate.

On top of that, the ability to select the graphics like Miracle Man referenced above has disappeared entirely from the Nvidia Control Panel. I've seen that limitation on another Intel laptop before. Manufacturer claimed that the Intel chip couldn't handle it which I found harder to believe. Have you tried adding a custom resolution to there list? I actually figured it out and it was pretty silly. In Hybrid, the settings are changed through the Intel Command Center.

In dGPU mode which I was in , some of the settings are apparently forced through the Nvidia Control panel since the computer is fully bypassing the integrated graphics. If im not wrong this software is the one to be installed for the shortcuts… found it on reddit. You have to do it manually through Intel graphics control center.

Fn-R is supposed to do it but it's not working for anyone yet. Andrei Girbea. Thanks to your thorough review, I feel really good about that decision! Really appreciate the level of detail regarding wattage, thermals, and fan noise dbs. Fantastic review, im so thankful you guys are here to guide us through bunch of those choises!

Hope you can review slim version soon. Can you turn off all of the extra side lighting but still keep the keyboard backlit? Also is ThrottleStop worth using or does this laptop do a good job at doing those things with the Legion software? I used your TS guide with my X1e Gen 2 and it helped a ton. Without iCue and under the default system lighting there is only one "normal" lit option which is blue, but it has the blue bar underneath lit as well.

There is a secret to turning it off but it involves switching to battery power first. If you hit Fn-Q to go into quiet mode it turns the lights off completely. Hitting fN-Q again restores the keyboard lighting still blue but leaves the light bar off. You can replace the power connection and the settings will stick even after putting the laptop through a sleep cycle.

I decided not to use Throttlestop. I didn't find it necessary yet. I'll probably fool with it in a few weeks when I have time to tweak it properly. The only thing I plan on using it for is to tune an ultra low TDP for use on battery power when I need to maximize it. You can safely install iCUE, run it to create and activate your prefered RGB setup with static colors for keyboard or any other area then make sure the customized profile you want is the first in the iCUE profile list as that'll be the one that gets activated upon iCUE startup.

From there you can create a batch file like below, create a shortcut for it, customize that shortcut with a shortcut key combo from its Properties such as setting it to CTRL-ALT-K, etc then place that shortcut in your Start Menu's Programs folder. From then on, all you have to do is hit the keyboard combo anywhere in Windows and it'll auto-kill the iCUE process and its services while leaving the loaded RGB profile in tact until reboot.

Point is: you can still have iCUE installed to take advantage of all the RGB goodness on your laptop static colouring, that is, animated coloring freezes when iCUE is stopped but still use a simple keyboard kepress to stop it from eating all of your battery runtime. When you want it back, just run it again… rinse, repeat.

May not be elegant, but its the best we can do until Corsair gets off their buts after all these years and fixes this hog or, even better, Lenovo integrates RGB lighting controls directly in Vantage. Is it really all metal?

Did you try to disassemble internal parts to see the laptop's frame structure? I have legion 7i with i9 HK model. And i cannot undervolt it using xtu or throttlestop as the option is disable. I read in internet that i need to open advanced bios and tick something. I've checked discord and nobody has figured out how to unlock advanced bios yet.

I must be lucky that mine is unlocked. I still haven't updated the bios and now I probably won't. The L7 deal is really good right now making it the same price, if not cheaper than an equivalent speced L5P. I'm very happy with the L5P that I have though and there really isn't anything I need the L7 for other than the better speakers. Still sounds like they aren't amazing speakers, just better than the L5P's.

My my main concern about switching is that I really like the L5P keyboard with the 1. Sounds like I'd lose both on the L7 for shallower travel, flat keys. Do you like the keyboard now or still miss the L5 keyboard? I've adjusted pretty well to this keyboard.

I do miss the concave keys for sure but the former feedback makes up for it. Not that it really matters, but the RGB is a little better on the L7. The only thing I kind of miss about the L5P keys is the black color. I'm not a fan of having no contrast. Figure it is easy to get used to anything. I have used a Razer before and after while my fingers get more tired with the flat keyboard than the with the legion 5 I have also used.

None of the aesthetic make a huge difference to me. Still with today's deals the L7 actually comes in at a cheaper price than I paid for a L5P with the same options. Still in the return window and it is still a hard decision. I just measured it now and it's 1. The main difference is in the feedback. For both keyboards, it takes 55g to depress the key. But on the L7, the springs are a little different ant lift a little more naturally.

The Razer Blade keys spring back when the force is dropped to 30g, while the L7 keys lift back at 15g. Hard to explain, but the key doesn't fight back as much on the L7, making it feel like it's easier to depress the key and to tell if it's depressed. I don't take these measurements anymore I used to do this for every laptop but it's a tedious test and offers little reward.

I would describe the L5P keyboard to be a little "mushier" though mainly because the lift back force is probably somewhere smaller than 15g. It wasn't bad — I've certainly had worse. But the keystroke depth makes up for it for sure. Tough call because I was ok with both Lenovo keyboards. Couldn't reply to the comment to the comment. Great info. Wouldn't even know how to begin measuring key travel. One other question. Have you tried the L7 slim? Best buy has it on display. I'm thinking the L7 and L7 slim have the same keyboard.

Closest I'll come to testing our an L7. I liked it. I haven't tried it but I might be in the area this weekend. If I am, I'll give it a try and will let you know. Cool, let me know what you think. I tried it out and a Legion 5 at my local BB. They didn't have a L5P, but I think the L5 is similar. Different feeling keyboards. I can't really say which was better. I want this laptop but this is out of my budget, could you suggest me from where i can buy this laptop in use?

Keep an eye on deal sites like Slickdeals. If you put an alert in, it'll email you if a deal pops up. I'm sure the version has also had sales. Good luck. I just got a Legion 5 Pro because I got a really good deal and I really like it so far! I was also looking at the Legion 7, but that was not available for a long time and I felt the difference was not so big between the two.

I was a bit sensitive with PWM in the past, in another laptop review I read that the panel does not have any PWM — did you by any chance check that? I don't really have proper measurment tools or knowledge to see if the display uses PWM. Would appreciate your reply and thanks again for the review! I don't have the equipment to check for it unfortunately.

Notebookcheck says they didn't detect any though, so I would trust in that. I don't understand why you won't show the blender benchmarks for legion series unlike the reviews of Asus laptops where you show them. As much as we're trying to keep our testing consistent between us, I run a couple more benchmarks than Derek does in his reviews. Hence, no Blender or Specviewperf here.

The GPU in this thing is extremely impressive with only the and ti consistently beating it. Let me know if you want me to run a particular benchmark for you. A few questions. A little bit of everything done well. Advice much appreciated! Will i9 HK be overkill for this laptop? Does i7CPU provide a better balance of performance and lower batter power consumption? Yes, the CPU is overkill. The i7 is probably fine, although I don't know if the power profiles are the same. I really liked the quiet profile on this model since it still was playable for all games.

Power consumption is probably negligible though. The 32gb kit is fine with me on this model. If you go the 16gb route, you'll have to upgrade but the 32gb models are fine as is. Absolutely not. But also consider that the top tiered model has an extre ssd, more ram and a "better" CPU. So that plays into the cost difference too.

Given that choice, I would say the model is the way to go. The AMD model has a couple cons to it though which I'm still working on an article for. Given the choice, I'd pick AMD though, especially if you can find it significantly cheaper. Thanks Derek. I will also be keen to understand your perspective on the difference between the AMD configuration and the Intel.

Did you say you will be publishing a review of the Legion 7 16" AMD soon? No chance that is bottlenecked by any of the CPU options on these models. The CPU power is pretty overkill for most games. I should have an article up within a week or so.

I've got all the data, I just need to write it. Been super busy this week. Thank you very much for the review. It arrived with empty battery. After charging, the laptop turned on. Do you notice such bahaviour or might it be faulty? That's not normal at all. Battery being dead on arrival like that is a red flag something is wrong hardware wise. It could be firmware too but I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem. You could check their Discord server to see if anyone else has that issue, but if it were me I'd just RMA it.

Excellent review! Can you offer some advice on finding a suitable car charger or otherwise more portable solution using the USB C port? And will it extend battery life while in use, whether regular or intensive, or is it mainly for charging while not in use?

In light of this, what's your opinion of these specs? I actually have one coming in on Monday. If it works, I'll report back. Perhaps older PD protocols aren't supported? Good specs on that model. I think the is probably fine for almost anyone who doesn't do heavy gaming. A will be futureproof for the 5 years you are intending to use the machine though. Same with the CPU. Good luck with your new purchase! Looking forward to hearing more about the USB C charger you have on order, assuming it works.

What really sold me on this laptop in addition to the great specs and appearance, etc. Been trying out a 5i Pro with the same screen, and it's as good as everyone says. I really don't need 3 USB-C, especially since the right one doesn't support Thunderbolt or charging…. Never used an external fingerprint reader, sorry. I've adapted to just using the pin on this model. You can set up the laptop to boot when you open the lid, and by the time you get it open, you can type your pin in right away.

Takes 2 seconds and no need to touch the power button. Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of getting a Jackery or , and keeping it in the car for use in a pinch. Heck, get the solar panels that go with it, and you could game or edit video just about anywhere! You'll want a cable that has an E-marker chip in it to successfully support up to the W 20V at 5A that these Legions support. I use the following cables successfully with my PD charger on my Legion 7 AMD as they do up to W while also supporting Gen 2 transfer speeds 10Gbps and video [email protected] at minimum :.

Derek, a quick note regarding USB-C charging. I purchased the Hyphen-X charger and a Fasgear cable with E-marker chip as suggested by Elrondolio below, and happy to report that it charges my 7i with great, however only while in sleep mode or turned off. But I also tried this on a much less expensive 7i with graphics, and it was able to charge the battery while using the laptop. The convenience of being able to charge via USB-C while in use seems like an important selling point for the version, assuming one can get by with more of an entry-level GPU by today's standards.

Apologies, the laptop with graphics that was able to charge via USB-C while in use was the Legion 5i Pro and not a 7i I don't believe Lenovo even makes a 7i with graphics, but I could be wrong. It is expected to ship on 11 October. I plan to use this with my Quest 2 link cable. I have two questions; 1 Does this configuration come with a "MUX" switch ability to turn off hybrid mode? Much appreciated! I never had that model but I'm going to go with "probably".

I'm guessing they leave it alone with all the Legion 7 models. Thanks Derek, I appreciate it. I'll make sure I post back here with results once this unit arrives. Quick and promising update Finally found the spec sheet on the version from Lenovo and it clearly states that the version supports Advanced Optimus, which I "believe" is that switch I'm looking for.

Sorry, I'm new to this first gaming laptop. All piece of information is just out of the box. I have trusted and am fully ready to purchase it. But I need some more information related to it. Of course, the maximum potential of the R9 is lower than that of the i9, and hence the tie between the two implementations. We got the exact same result on the Intel configuration. I did a number of synthetic benchmarks on this laptop.

The GPU performance is fairly similar between the two, with differences within the margin or error. The Intel model does have a slight edge in the CPU tests, though, both in multi-core and especially in single-core loads. These are the results with Vantage set to Balanced, a mid-level profile with quieter fans and only slightly limited power settings:. Perhaps too aggressively limited. In short, excellent results in Performance mode, especially with the OC.

There are some differences in CPU performance between models. If you need the most CPU performance, the Intel model is clearly the better buy, as the scores were significantly higher across the board. GPU performance was pretty consistent between models, which is to be expected since the power limits are the same. The last difference to mention is the result of the Quiet modes. CPU performance is so much worse for the Ryzen model in this mode. The good news though is the fan noise is better than the Intel version in this mode.

Note that changing out the RAM had a negligible effect on the benchmarks, similar to the difference that was made on the Intel version. I do have a feeling that the 16GB models 2x 8GB will suffer a decrease in performance, though, similar to what I experienced in the Legion 5 Pro. I did three sets of benchmarks this time: Performance mode, Quiet mode, and with the swapped-out RAM kit. As you can see, the performance is excellent in Performance mode. Quiet mode is also pretty decent.

And as mentioned, there were no significant advantages of using a different RAM kit. The internal temperatures slightly different though. I retook my Horizon Zero Dawn testing and jotted down the results. Take a look:. Noise levels in Performance and Balanced modes were consistent across both models, as well. The fan noise is much quieter in Quiet mode on the AMD version, but the performance is also a lot lower.

So this is the point where some will ultimately need to decide what they want in their machine, since there are some differences here. The Intel model is the better gamer in the Quiet mode, while the Ryzen laptop is actually quieter in Quiet mode, but less powerful.

My opinion? You could argue it either way…. On the Legion 5 , I actually swapped out the module for an Intel version because it died after a week of use. The speakers and webcam are both identical to the Legion 7i, so please refer to that article for my opinions on both. Here were my results:. Pretty decent results, especially setting the screen to 60Hz. Clearly, the Ryzen CPU is more power-efficient and shaves a few watts or more off each scenario. If battery life is important to you, I highly recommend grabbing the Ryzen model.

The power brick is the same W brick and this unit also supports USB -C charging in the rear port, so no changes there. Keep in mind though, the custom builds take time to make and eventually ship to you. Lenovo seems to have sales on a monthly basis. In my case, the savings were insane. Crazy, I know. There are some reasons to justify the Intel price gap, though. The Intel version also supports gen 4 SSDs, which are faster than the gen3s in the Ryzen model, and actually ships with these type of faster storage drives.

And the only two major differences left are CPU performance and battery life. If you need the most CPU power you can get, the Intel model is clearly the better buy here. But the Ryzen model offers way better battery life. It was a little buggy on my Intel unit anyway, as it caused some major stuttering on some games and ultimately just got turned off.

And at that point, the other choice is manually switching between Optimus and dedicated graphics, just like in the Ryzen model. Update: If interested in a more portable alternative with mid-tier specs and a good price, y ou should also check out our review of the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 series. Hope this helps you guys make an informed decision on these Lenovo Legion 7 and 7i laptops. I completely disagree with that.

Ryzen in this laptop is an advantage, not a disadvantage. Performance differences on the verge of measurement error, while battery life or work culture are at a level completely unattainable for Intel. And do not forget about pricing…. Andrei Girbea. Read the whole article and look at the numbers. The differences are not within the margin of error.

Nobody's arguing against the efficiency of the AMD platform, or against it being perhaps a better-balanced choice on this chassis. Nobody goes play benchmarks. We usually play games, and there — as I wrote earlier, the differences on the border of the measurement error or not at all. Really good article but preferably more focus on why Amd variant has 2 dB more in performance mode. As a regular user, I think why is Amd variant not quieter than Intel when Amd can handle more heat?

I need to test two Amd laptop and see the difference between temperatures and performance cpu and gpu , what programs should i use for that? Derek Sullivan. For my testing I use Horizon Zero Dawn in a specific scenario. Cyberpunk would also work. If you wanted to try something more consistent, you could use a gaming benchmark such as Time Spy, but the fan noise fluctuates drastically between tests, especially the CPU only test.

I wouldn't get too hung up on 2dB difference though. For fan noise, I take a reading and record average sound over a 1 minute span. I just report my results as is, but it could easily be a couple dB different if I were to try it again. I other words, it's not an exact science. Note my screenshot for HZD in performance modes on both versions. So dynamic boost is treating the configs very differently for the same game. This probably contributes to the 2dB difference.

Why it's different is anyone's guess. It could be balancing on the vapor chamber being different, but it could also simply just be differing tolerances on the vapor chamber or even a slight pasting difference. Can the i7 cpu be undervolted to end up similar efficiencies like the ryzen cpu and thus better battery life on the legion 7i? It can be undervolted yes, but it won't affect the wattage by as much as the difference I saw.

Thank you very much for a great and detailed review! I used it as a main decision point in ordering this laptop. One of the few issues out of the box is that I have real trouble with battery life on my Legion 7, whatever options i try the best i can squeeze out of it is like 1.

Better battery life, quiet profile, icue killed, brightness is all the way down.. What kind of software do you use to measure the wattage you posted in Battery Life part of the article? Probably i can find which component draws so much power.

Thank you. Use hwinfo. There's a spec called "charge rate" that appears when you unplug. Good luck troubleshooting. Derek, you are the man! With that power draw monitor u advised and throttle stop to check CPU power states I was able to play with this and that and see what exact mofo steals the juice.

Im absolutely happy to fix this issue and bump my battery from 1. As far as i understand that Corsair service thing is related to controlling some other or some advanced functions of Corsair products and is not related to LED control implementation of this Legion laptop. I really hope Lenovo can release some better software and finally stop that rainbow crap show and jumping through the hoops to have real battery life..

I saw they released some semi official keyboard LED firmware for Yoga and that update sets some blue or white backlite by default which was really really good idea, lets jump on their support nuts together and push em to release something like that for Legion as well. Did the Yoga you referenced used to use iCue? I don't think it'll be an option for this one because it's technically a Corsair keyboard. Without the iCue software installed, you do get 2 or 3 presets that are baked into the firmware.

Trouble is, only one of them is tolerable to use professionally and even that is a bit much for my taste. What I'd really like to see is a way to save some presets into the firmware. I'd love to overwrite that rainbow one that starts at boot. Desktop Corsair keyboards have the ability to overwrite the default profile, but that option isn't available for the Legion….

Some support guy posted a KBD firmware update to overwrite default pride profile with plain blue and it worked well. We need to push for same stuff for Legion for sure. I could never imagine myself tearing my new laptop apart so fast to pull out those flex cables for side and vents LEDs, i totally cant wrap my head around the fact that we have no control in BIOS over that crap show and have to jump through the hoops.

Maybe you can use this info in some of your articles to catch some of Lenovo attention, you guys are big and one of the best on review scene, it can make good circles on the water for em to hear and fix it finally. Worst case scenario, some good coder can look into KBD firmware update utility which is available and mod it the way we can upload our own profiles and settings, im ready to chip in for crowdfunding.

Any thoughts on how the i7 version would compare to the ryzen version? I currently have the ryzen version but would prefer the intel with thunderbolt and pci v4. I ordered the i7 and will compare the two myself.